鴉PieFedYou receive an emergency alert: "BALLISTIC MISSILE THREAT INBOUND. SEEK IMMEDIATE SHELTER. THIS IS NOT A DRILL." What do you do? How do you think your neighborhood will react? What memes be on Lemmy?
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Like this:
But replace "Hawaii" with your location.
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I don't have to fully imagine since northern Japan has gotten alerts thanks to a certain neighbor. As for us, there's that can be done. Nowhere has basements. I do t know if anyone nearby even lives in a concrete building. Wed likely then make our way to the municipal office at some point as it's our closest designated disaster/evac point.
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We were in this scenario last year, when NK launched a missile towards Hokkaido, and we were on the west coast, just next to a nuclear reactor.
After getting the altert, we put on clothes, went downstairs to the sturdiest room, stuck on the TV to the NHK news, and waited. The missle plopped into the ocean off the coast, and we had tempura for lunch.
There's really nothing you can do in these situations but stay calm and do the small, sensible things.
Modern nuclear reactors won't meltdown if shot, just turn off so only gonna be more dangerous if they specifically target electricity infrastructure
we hope. never having tested nearby strikes, there's no way to know how resilient to catastrophe these things are, and even when over-engineered with an eye on safety in the worst conditions, fukushima illustrates that everything can go wrong in a cascade and still render them unsafe.
honestly, coastal nuclear power stations like diablo canyon and fukushima are going to be interacting with larger and more violent storms in the future, and tsunamis etc., perhaps there are better places for them.
Not really, modern Thorium reactors simply can't meltdown, it's no safety, simply not possible they are the Future
Modern thorium reactors don't exist on the power grid.
For now
it may be physically impossible but until we test them with catastrophic conditions we won't know. that said, their long history of fail-safe fail states and the extremely reduced physical constraints (lower pressure, lower temps, lower amounts of fissile material, lower enrichment, etc.,) make me think you're right, but it's gonna be hard to prove because we're having such difficulty getting the larger industry to test the shit much less deploy it in any reasonable amount of time.
Not to make anyone nervous, but dropping a fuckass big missile on a pile of very secure and safe nuclear material will still scatter that material in a wide area, and wind will make it worse.
But no, making a modern nuclear suffer a meltdown is basically impossible
It's okay to leave the space in when it's two words.
*Laughs in German*
Sure, but a nuclear power plant could be a potential target. The nuclear warhead is the concern.
If someone drops a nuke I think you will have bigger problems than the lack of electricity
That's exactly what I'm saying... If you live near a nuclear power plant, you're a potential target. Cause the bomb doesn't destroy the plant, it destroys the city it's in and several towns around it.
The plant is a target because hitting the plant makes the power go out for the whole region, but *your* problem is the warhead. Meltdowns don't factor in at any point.
*If* they are built and maintained correctly. And meltdown isn't the only problem that could occur.
I don't have much faith in a corrupt, self-regulated industry, with strong yakuza ties, to do things 100% the correct way, especially given everything we know about the industry post 2011. Knowing how much local political power the company has, I know they could literally get away with murder, as no politician or police would want to be on their bad side.
Don't get me wrong, the missile was still the biggest threat, but I do believe the power plant isn't necessarily safe. An engineering and/or scientific understanding of a modern power plant doesn't mean shit if you don't consider the political and capitalist systems the that underpin their construction and maintenance.
Could you recommend any reading about the Yakuza involvement in the industry? Super fascinating but it's the first I've heard if it
Thanks
For English sources probably the best book is Tokyo Noir by Jake Adelstein
At my current location, I'd expect it to be an error, since I'm about 1500 miles away from the nearest worthwhile target (Chilean Antartica Region).
Maybe you're more important than you give yourself credit for.
In that case, the only immediately available shelter that would have any effect at all is the sweet embrace of a bottle of gin.
Take comfort in the knowledge that somebody out there with launch authority is thinking of you. Immolation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Please send penguin pics or else you'll be wishing for a ballistic missile
Penguin tax:\
Payment accepted. Dress code observed.
My babies ❤️
LOVE this!!!! Do you have rock hoppers or macaroni penguins near you? Love those two species.
No, only Magellan Penguins.
But they're cute as hell!
Whaaaat. Is this even allowed!?
What are you gonna do, call the seals? (Please don't)
I tried, but they just said "ORF, ORF, ORF!". Seals don't seem to understand English.
awww cuty pingwy
Remember that sailor you won that hand of poker against? The one who stalked away mad? Well he has a brother in the missile command...
Cool! how is the Antarctic? I live in the Arctic.
Cool 😎
19 hours of sunshine, 0-10 degrees Celsius, windy as fuck, and you better apply the strongest sunscreen you can get 3x a day or you'll regret it.
We're experiencing a couple of hours of twilight at midday at the moment but otherwise darkness. No aurora either because it's been mostly cloudy since the beginning of polar night. Also it's been raining on and off, which is not a good sign.
Those penguins have it coming.
nooo 😭
I'd immediately go into the basement and start memeing. I have redundant internet connections for these kinds of situations so I should still be able to post memes. I'm locally hosting a Mastodon instance so I can post even if the internet is down globally. I also have a TCP-over-HF setup so that I can post memes anywhere in the world without intermediate infrastructure. If humanity is completely destroyed, I would start memeing and rickrolling on cave walls for future generation
I am quite interested in that. How did you achieve it? Is there some license-free band? As far as I know encryption is not allowed for any ham radio transmissions. What's the bandwidth? It seems packet radio on HF is 300 baud.
TCP-over-HF is very slow, even with a lot of compression and low resolution the max throughput is about 4 memes per hour. I want maximum distribution of my memes so I wouldn't use any encryption.
How many kbits/s?
I do the same thing for a missile alert that I do for a tornado alert...
Film it from my front porch as it gets uncomfortably close, while my wife screams in the background for me to get back in the house.
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What a dumb message. Of course this is not a drill. This is a phone. My drill doesn't have the means to accept incoming messages.
This ain't my dad! This is a cell phone!
Happy birthday to the ground!
you need to acquire a better drill then
Nothing. Everyone is going to get the same alert and freak the fuck out, clogging all the roads, making it impossible to get to a shelter.
I have 2 choices:
1) Center of my cinderblock house and hope for the best.\
2) Submerged in the hot tub and hope for the best.
Option number C. Just pretend like nothing happened, probably a false alarm like last time.
Whats the worst that can happen?
In that case, hot tub. False alarm? Still got a soak in the hot tub. :)
Submerged in the neighbour’s wife/daughter/pool boy/donkey (delete as appropriate)?
The man sitting next to Ford was a bit sozzled by now. His eyes weaved their way up to Ford.
'I thought,’ he said ‘that if the world was going to end we were meant to lie down or put a paper bag over our head or something.’ ‘If you like, yes,’ said Ford. ‘That’s what they told us in the army,’ said the man, and his eyes began the long trek back towards his whisky. ‘Will that help?’ asked the barman. ‘No,’ said Ford and gave him a friendly smile.
He should've had his towel.
Kiss my wife, and my ass goodbye. There are no shelters here.
Did you have several ribs removed?
Careful about the order of actions.
My wife's cousin actually got this text while on vacation in Hawaii. Said he just sparked up a joint n hoped for the best. It worked, so maybe I'll do the same.
Smoke them if you have them. Why freak out.
Just another Tuesday for me
Update: oh hey, there's one right now
Are you in Palestine?
In Ukraine
Glory to Ukraine!
Edit: and fuck Putin!
Glory to the heroes!
Hope I get obliterated by a direct hit
Honestly. Never got preppers.
What world post nukes will be worth trying to live in? Best result instant vaporization.
It could be pretty fun up in the mountains, or in small towns that didn't get hit with fallout.
Is the pre-nuke world really anything to write home about? A life of hunting, fishing, and murdering drunk russian soldiers with piano wire is honestly more appealing than working an office job.
It's more honest.
Exactly
Humanity was forged by a hostile world and we've been pushed to the brink of oblivion at least once. We adapt. I probably live too close to a major population center to survive the initial hits or the first months of total collapse so that's a bummer, but I wouldn't just lie down and take it.
Same here. My city's buildings are not made with missile protection in mind. We don't even have basements for tornado protection since tornados barely ever happen here. And if an earthquake strikes, you're basically doomed to live in a tent for the next decade of your life assuming you survive.
I hate Morocco so much.
I would invite everyone to my bomb shelter.
Thanks Ned!
Old painty-can Ned
Who is Ned?
I would not believe that message, because real warnings would not be that specific around here, and they also would never add that funny phrase " this is not a drill"
(Actual drills outside of the military are announced at least several days in advance, if they expect people to cooperate)
I live with my mom and my wife 40 mins from the vancouver city centre… Honestly I’d probably go sit with my wife, kiss them ‘n hope for the best.
Also sobbing, that too. Can’t forget that.
Ohai, neighbour. My mom's about 9 realistic hours of travel away (aka 2 small BCFerries trips). Can I borrow your mom too? If you also can see the noodlebox location that used to be a starbucks, that is. I can sob like no one else; ugly-crying and everything.
My mom will absolutely volunteer to be a mom for you too 💛 We can even have a competition about who can sob the most!
I would know it's fake because nobody is nuking our small country.
you never know when the goodtime oilbug will bite 🇺🇲
We don't have any oil luckily.
My phone is usually dead, misplaced, or the volume is at 0%. So I would probably crack a beer and stand on the porch wondering why the neighbors are freaking out.
If you have a good emergency infrastructure in your country, the volume being at 0% should not be an issue.
You will likely still hear the cell broadcast. Alerts of this level make every phone give off a piercing sound and even if your phone is dead, you will hear it from your neighbours' because it's *loud*.
If your phone and early warning systems support cell broadcasting you will still get notified. Cell broadcast alarms are always at full volume, regardless of your settings.
I've done my best to disable all emergency alerts on my mobile device with the stock OS. Time will tell I suppose.
Edit: ah balls, you're right. Android says the 'national alert' category can't be turned off.
Same boat, after I got a series of very loud "flash flood" alerts going late into the night. Every time the timeframe was extended there was another alert. I did not fancy being woken up at 2 am in my second floor bedroom to a alert telling me to stay off the roads.
What brand is it? I don't see national alert as a setting?
It's a Motorola *something*
Wank
I'll dodge.
Just pull off one of these
https://youtube.com/watch?v=JzS96auqau0&t=30
Dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge.
"If you can dodge an ICBM, you can dodge a ball."
"Serpentines... Serpentines... Serpentines..." 🏃
Catch it and yeet it back.
You have to get the parry timing just right for that move.
Put on Tom Lehrer's We Will All Go Together When We Go
Meh, I'm in Scotland and the nearest even vaguely major city is 30 miles away, they could be setting off tsar bombas and I'd be fine from the several km of solid rock from various winding hills between me and the blast, probably wouldn't even feel much of a pressure wave. Probably just start filling every container I can find with clean water.
Same but in France.
I live in an old house in a mountainous, sparsely populated area totally devoid of strategic ressources (Auvergne).
I'd probably go to my basement which is dug in the granite substrate and lined with stone walls at least half a meter thick.
The other option would be to go to the bottom of the neighbouring valley (at least 200m deep) and would be shielded by the surrounding terrain.
I choose this person's basement
I'm not a guy but I'll save you a spot by the veggie crate. It's a bit damp though.
If they airbursted one of those on Edinburgh, people in Glasgow would get third degree burns.
It's not gonna happen, but your comment got me thinking so I checked. AN602 is an egregious fucker.
So a quick check on this, For a 50 megaton airburst on that city 30 miles away (bit closer by the crow flies) I am within the third degree burn radius and the light blast damage radius, However some basic trig and an altitude map say I have no direct line of sight to the airburst assuming its detonated at an altitude of 1km, so I'm free and clear as far as third degree burns are concerned due to that being a product of the flash. As for light blast damage its likely somewhat lessened by the lack of line of sight and very bumpy intervening terrain, though my village is right along a major river and gives us a comparatively straight (by the standards of river valleys) run right to that city so window breaking is probably going to be pretty hit or miss depending on building orientation and local obstructions.\
There's also about 250m of elevation between Glasgow and Edinburgh which is fairly significant considering they're 50km apart, a rough eyeball on an elevation map suggests that they each get at least partial obscurity from a nuke dropped on the other.
I think you might be better at this than me - I just glanced at https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/ like some kind of chump
Assuming it's nuclear, sit around and mourn the fact I don't have a basement. Hope that either A: missle defence works, or B: I'm in the evaporation zone. Radiation sickness sounds awful.
Even if the explosion and fallout completely missed my area, I think EMP disruption would be a huge issue and lots of people would be panicking, stealing, murdering trying to survive.
Would there be any reason to believe that a ballistic missile would be non-nuclear?
Yes, to scare the shit out of Ukrainians. Russia recently hit them with a conventional warhead on an ICBM.
Dummy warheads not even loaded with any explosive. They were actually trying to scare the west. Because they're idiots.
I live near a strategic asset. I bend over and kiss my ass good bye because the good roads out of town just got super clogged.
Maybe get the good bottle out and hope the ABM stuff actually works this decade.
There's nothing to do.
I go outside with arms open wide, saying "it's about time".
I've got one hell of a cold right now. I'd welcome the sweet relief.
Chug some NyQuil, take some sleeping pills and some Benadryl and deal with it later.
Visit from the hatman guaranteed
Ah just dump all my cat's treats in her bowl and probably go lie down.
I'm all prepared to host a NYE party so would probably be like the This is the End frat pack movie.
Hopefully it's a nice day so I could go outside and lay down in the grass or climb a tree to chill and completely relax.
Make sure my phone was actually on silent, put ear plugs in and go back to sleep. I'm too fucking tired to try and survive anything more.
Go to basement. Got enough emergency supplies to last a while.
Sweden, costal village north of Stockholm.
If a missile is on it's way, I'd send a text to my near and dear with a quick "missile incomming, love you, if I don't make it, you can have X".
Then go to bed in my walk in closet.
I live alone in my flat, top floor, no proper shelter in my general area.
Are you sure there is no shelter available? It seems there will be at least *one* that is less than 30 minutes away by car: https://www.msb.se/en/advice-for-individuals/civil-defence-shelters-evacuation-and-warning-systems/good-to-know-about-civil-defence-shelters/ https://msbgis.maps.arcgis.com/apps/instant/nearby/index.html?appid=8bfc89e7c6064bc181c6a1a6bbac2fa3&sliderDistance=1
There is "space for around seven million people" and Sweden's population is about 10.6 million, and the availability of shelters seems to match the population distribution pretty closely. You could at least let your neighbors know that they can have your space in a shelter (since there might be about 3.6 million people who won't fit in shelters), or show up anyway in order to help carry away any materials that were being stored in a shelter in peacetime, or to help get food or water into a shelter.
The missile is incomming, remember?
At least move a few floors down and stay in the hall if it's somewhat central to the building. No below ground floors?
The house is built into a hillside, but no real underground floor.
I'd move toward the hillside at least 😄
Oh! Oh! I have an answer for this. I remember around the time that *The Day After* aired, one of the local news stations ran a story simulating what would happen to my city were it hit by an ICBM. We lived on the far side of a hill, far enough away from downtown for it to be potentially survivable. I decided that if we got the warning, I'd grab my bike and light out for ground zero. Fuck surviving, I don't wanna take the chance of being alive but horribly injured, and that aftermath shit just wasn't worth it.
Oh, so if you ever wonder why Gen X/Xennials are so fucked up, there ya go.
Ha we don't have text alerts in my country! I would die happy and ignorant in my pretty toilet
Technically it's not a text message here either. The government literally overrides your phone to play the alert. Unless your phone is turned off it will play the message.theyve tested it a couple of times now. It's pretty unsettling.
wow that's crazy. But I imagine it's a good thing when you have some crazy enemies
Crazy neighbours. Russia's right next door.
Drugs. So the usual.
Ooh good idea! I guess I'd have some of the wine and vodka that's been sitting untouched in our cupboard for 7 years.
Clearly, war has come. My town won't be the one getting hit though.
Load a few jerry cans in the car, take out cash at the ATM, fill up as much fuel, clean water and firewood as possible, then stop by the local hospital and ask if they need extra hands. Meanwhile give my sis a call.
ATMs are offline due to EMP blast, which also killed your cell phone, cell towers, and battery to your car which is stuck in gridlocked traffic. Provided you made it far enough to actually get gas, others who didn’t have your foresight begin to eye your resources.
They’re also MAGA supporters.
If the endtimes come MAGA supporters will be relegated to foorsoldiers in my dictatorial regime
Nothing I can do. As far as I know there is no bomb safety infrastructure near my house plus I'm afraid of getting trapped underground so I wouldn't want to risk sitting in one.
I'd crack a beer, sit out on my deck and call my family and close friends to say my goodbyes.
I assume pizza delivery times will be through the roof, so I'd try to get mine in ASAP.
I'm about 45 minutes from the Sierra Nevada mountains so I'm headed there to a place I know.
Go stand in the street and flip off the CIA satellite overhead. I'm ready.
I guess I'd seek shelter 🤷♂️
I will do the following:
Duck and cover
I'm going to the drug store to buy them out of iodine. If I survive, probably going to need it.
🤣
Bro, just grab the stuff before others take it. There aint laws when missiles by flying.
"buy"
And stay a smoothskin? You're passing on a once-in-a-lifetime chance of becoming a ghoul.
Pretty sure they’re not at the local store anyway. I bought some last year online
Iodine is readily available at every drug store in liquid form. It's also readily absorbed through the skin. Just ask people who were around before salt was iodized. Parents used to rub it on the soles of their kids feet.
You're referring to a solution of elemental iodine in water of about 5% (or more likely, iodine-povidone, as the iodine alone doesn't like being dissolved in water) that is used for disinfection
The iodide (IDE, not INE) tablets, where the iodine is in it's ionized form (I- , usually with potassium as the cation K+) are what you want for radiation treatment, you take them orally and the dosage is in the milligrams, much lower then the iodine solutions.
The solution also doesn't absorb at all through the skin, but you don't see the iodine anymore because it vaporizes rather quickly
Thank you. You do absorb iodine through skin though. It's been done for a long time. It may not be useful for radiation as you say but it does indeed absorb cutaneously and is available to the body. It was used for iodine supplement before salt was iodized.
Just searched for potassium iodide (which is what your supposed to take for radiation) at CVS and nope
Yes, orally that's what you take.
Ah I understand now TIL
Meh. I can still doom scroll in that time. Best use of my time I tell you.
Get with my kids and hang out... wherever. No basement, so either in a bathroom or get in a car and park it around behind my house and hope it's enough to protect us from the blast. If it doesn't, at least I'll be together with my kids when it happens.
Given how slow the elevator is in my building, I’d do nothing. I’d be dead before it showed up.
Do you live on the 100th floor of your building or something?
Maybe they're not able to use stairs
Correct. I can’t use the stairs because otherwise my already flailing joke wouldn’t work at all.
Plot twist: The joke was the one needing the crutch.
My point was: "Why is the elevator so slow? Do you happened to live on the 100th floor and the elevator had to climb all the way from ground floor?"
Take me and my cat down to the basement with my phone, water, power bank and lantern/candles, call my mom so we could all be on the phone together, and hope I'm taken out instantly.
I am "lucky" enough to live within a few miles of a place I'm pretty sure would be a ground zero in an all out nuclear attack. I live in a university town. And the university I attend has a nuclear engineering program along with an accompanying research reactor. In any all-out nuclear exchange, anything related to nuclear technology is at the top of the target list. A facility that trains new nuclear engineers is definitely on the target list. We've actually talked about this. If we get this message, our plan is to round up the cats, throw then in the car, grab every mind altering substance we can get our hands on, and go get wasted outside the front gate of the reactor building. We won't try to break into the building or anything; the alert could always be in error and we don't need a felony for trying to break into a nuclear facility on our records. But when hydrogen bombs are involved, the front gate of the reactor building is close enough to ground zero to do the job.
Sorry, but there are indeed fates worse than death. For one, we would be unlikely to survive the initial bombing anyway. But most people have this idea that you'll get vaporized by a bomb. That's not how these things actually work. If you're killed in the first hour by the bomb, odds are it will be from being slowly cooked alive in the burning collapsed remnants of your own home. And sure, we could drive out into the country, but that would only ensure that we would die slowly from fallout induced radiation sickness, slow starvation after the complete collapse of all supply chains, or worse.
Trust me. If that alert comes, the ones close enough to ground zero to be atomized will be the lucky ones. This is something that you do not want to survive. I would encourage anyone that if they ever get that alert, to try to travel as close to whatever you think is your most likely ground zero as possible. You'll be doing yourself and your loved ones a favor. Unless you're already an off-grid survivalist type living in a self-sufficient compound way outside of any blast or fallout zone, all you're doing by escaping the blasts is stretching out your own misery. Do you and yours a favor by making it quick and painless.
On another note, Happy New Year!
You sound a lot like Dr. Falken from Wargames.
I mean, it's not an irrational stance. Better to thoughtfully and rationally consider it and plan accordingly.
Really, it's another manifestation of that whole, "which would your rather meet alone in the woods, a lone man or a lone bear." A lot of guys simply couldn't understand why most women would take the bear. But the worst the bear is going to do is eat you. And there are many fates worse than death.
Oh, I wasn't meaning to suggest you were wrong. I've actually feel that Falken's statement there makes perfect sense. Falken only goes wrong when he refuses to act to stop WW III on the assumption that since it's going to happen eventually, why not now?
Why do the cats get put in the car? Are you bringing them with you and driving to the gates of the reactor to get high, or?
I mean, I'm not going to leave the cats to die in a collapsing burning house either. If I think being vaporized is the best possible fate for myself, why would I deny that mercy to my cats? And yes, in case it's not clear, we're driving to the reactor gates, with the cats in the car. They're joining us for the blast. They're going with us.
The plan is: grab cats and mind altering substances -> load up car -> drive to reactor ->park in front of gates -> get out of our minds, pet the cats tell bombs fall.
Ah, that makes more sense. Apologies for the confusion, I don't live in a car centred place.
I live in a shithole 100km from a NATO capital. I'm not expecting a direct or near hit, so the fallout is my main concern. I should have at least 20-30 minutes to get comfy.
I've got potable water in jugs in the basement already. I'll just grab a couple of mattresses, sleeping bags, camping stove, food, solar/crank radio and head down there. Also some duct tape to seal up the ventilation.
Don't use the stove if you're going to seal up any ventilation.
"thank God, it can finally be over" would be my first thought, followed by hugging and petting my dogs until it happens.
Seek immediate shelter, probably. And wonder why someone would send a ballistic missile to New Hampshire.
Follow the neighbours to the bunker.
If I’m in a country that isn’t at war, and has a strong military:
Ignore it and go about what I was doing. Later on, probably read about some idiot who sent the warning by accident.
Possibly, die in a fiery explosion.
I'd be setting off the pair of sirens I own, then awaiting the inevitable. Thankfully I live in an area where the chance of being vaporized is quite high.
I'm going to get some beer and weed and enjoy the rest of my day.
Double it and give it to the next person
I'd either go take a nap, or go hide in my basement. Not sure which.
Nap in the basement?
Maybe but my bed is comfier lol
This is how this situation was depicted in a made for TV movie on NBC. https://youtu.be/n28NoLNarNs?si=DHOgJqb1QWzulkqg
Not realistic. It supposedly 1983 but they refer to USSR as Russia. Dissolution wasn't until 1991. Literally unwatchable.
The way they depict the almost autonomous responses of those in charges of firing the nukes is unnerving.
Immediately get in my car and drive like a bat out of hell out of my city. It’s small but it’s for sure a nuclear target
Same but towards the blast. I've seen Threads, I ain't hanging around for that shit.
tons of people will try the same thing. Roads will be grid locked in minutes. Better to try finding shelter underground
I’m gunna be running people off the road and driving through people’s yards
If I'm at work, I go to the gym (the gym's in a cold war bomb shelter) if I'm at home I start heading north. Put a couple of mountains between me and the city.
Get in the cool dirt under my house.
Why? So it can fall on you?
I feel safe in the crawlspace?
If you're my family, sleep through it while I frantically close windows because I didn't know what else to do. Most Hawaii homes have no basements usually, so its kind of just fucked
I'd probably be safe and sound, since I'm in a small town a bit away from Melbourne, so an air strike wouldn't affect me unless they tzar bomba the shit out of Melbourne.
meh, radiations not yummy, but you would be safe from immediate danger
That's fair, I'd have to at least be like 40km from Melbourne to not experience dangerous levels of radiation.
I wonder if my neighbours will think fucking around with Russia was worth finding out, or rejoice in the victory of retaliation.
Russia has a nasty habit of attacking smaller countries to feed their imperialist ambitions and hiding behind their nukes whenever anyone says anything. It's better to risk a nuclear exchange to bloody their noses and teach them some manners, than let them continue their crap.
Fuck evil Dobby.
Both objective reality, and Russian perception, is that US is 100% responsible for instigating and perpetuating the war. The only objective for fighting is to continue to diminish Russia through NATO or US alignment. You are essentially saying that it is legitimate to make the "evil side" STFU through a nuclear strike potentially on civilian/economic targets. You can thank Putin for being so moderate and patient in this war so far, in not making the US choose to STFU and collapse.
Are you high or just a moron?
You mean when Russia invaded in 2022, which nobody expected to actually happen because it was obviously stupid and wouldn't work? America gave that order?
Yes US/Ukraine instigated it. The key to any Russian missile launch is Russian opinion that US instigated the war.
This is just fake propaganda.
I assume it's a mistake because I live in a small town that would never be a target.
I will go as close as I can to the most touristy area as soon as I can in hopes I get vaporized so I don't survive the blast. If it's fake then I guess I'll go to some empty nowhereish area in a big touristy park and call 988, then go shoppin and buy some starbucks. The street vendors selling flavored honey and enamel pins and stuff probably are gone so I can't shop at their thingies otherwise I would. But honestly I'm sick of calling 988. I'm tired of fighting. Tired of trying. I'm going to have dementia in my thirties anyway might as well cut my losses.