鴉PieFedWhat HATED or highly disliked movie you ACTUALLY really enjoyed?
submitted by Platypus@lemmings.world
The reverse of that post I've made a week ago...
Rules: pick one movie or series and explain why you actually enjoyed it despite the criticism.
For me: The JJ Abrams Star Trek movies, by far the best ST stuff ever made, I couldn't take seriously the original universe with the dated effects and stiff acting, same goes for NG... These movies did ST actually great looking and much more believable, not just the effects.
Zardoz. Say what you will about Sean Connery running around in a bright red romper, it was original.
For me, it's the movie Waterworld. I cannot get enough of that movie. So many people hated it. 🤣
Haters: it's just Mad Max on water
Me: that's awesome
I like Waterworld, and I like The Postman.
Postman was great! The book is worth a read, too.
The joke in my friend group was that Waterworld was Dances with Wolves on water. The Postman was Waterworld on land. Dances with Wolves was the Postman with Native Americans. Toss in whichever parallel you feel works best to not actually say the movie you're putting on.
DRY LAND!!!!
I dont understand the hate other than cosner was the guy to hate in that era.
I've never understood Costner hate. He's a good actor who stars in a lot of good movies.
If paper is the most valuable substance in the entire world, then why are they continuously smoking cigarettes that are rolled in paper? That would be like eating a chunk of gold every hour.
In my headcanon it's some kind of smokable kelp wrapped in different kelp.
Have you ever smoked? When you're addicted you'd trade in a chunk of gold for a cigarette if necessary.
I once walked 10 miles to get cigarettes, so yeah, I guess I get that.
Solid Film. Quirky characters. Everyone seems to be having fun.
It inspired me to buy a kayak a few years back to have my Autistic Fish Man Summer.
Pretty sure when I went to WB world or whatever as a kid they had one of those 15min live shows of it. Jestskis and a few explosions. Surly it can't be thst unpopular.
It's a fine movie, but people really don't like being reminded of climate change or other environment issues. Same thing with Avatar. If you cast an environmentalist as a villain though, people seem to like it.
That was the first that came to mind, but I didn't know it was very hated, just thought it bombed at the box office opening weekend because it was in competition with another movie that was way more popular.
*Just kidding... but not really.*
Yeah, to each their own, but if you think this, you don't understand why people like Star Trek.
Dude if in universe they talk about hyper advanced races or warlords without mercy or AI and all the have is actors in shitty make up or awful "martial arts" and sword fighting, then the new movies are better by default. It's about immersion
I say this purely tongue in cheek.
Enjoy your polished turd. But don't look directly at it. It will blind you with lens flare.
Funny thing, I didn't even really notice the lense flares until people started complaining about it... I guess when you live with something like that all the time (thanks, astigmatism), seeing it on screen just doesn't have the same effect on you
Wow, I don't think I've ever seen someone with this confusing of an opinion. And I've met Trump supporters that love Star Trek.
The new movies are more credible and feel more real for a sci fi movie, is that hard to understand?
You... You are aware just how much tech and effects have progressed in the last sixty years... Right? What they were doing was groundbreaking for the time, pretty much every time.
This is a bit right? You’re doing a bit? …right?
What are you talking about?
I'm with you. Both that I enjoyed the movie and don't understand the point this guy trying to make.
actually, it's about imagination
No is not. These aren't books, it's an audio visual media. Seeing Kirk in a bad looking cardboard looking set pretending to be another planet with soap opera acting won't sell the idea
Maybe I do understand why people like Star Trek, but I just don't like that myself?
Ngl, I’m with you, holy crap they seem absolutely miserable.
@[email protected] I say this with all the love for a stranger I can have in my heart:
I’m Michael Jordan. Stop it, get some help.
Me and about a dozen other people thought *John Carter* was great. To me, it was just a fun sci-fi/fantasy movie. Never undestood the hate.
John Carter was only hated by people who follow box office numbers instead of watching movies.
It was great!
My gal hates it because she's a huge fan of the book and apparently they did the whole of it pretty dirty. One of those, "it's fine if you weren't hoping to see anything that made the book unique" type movies.
My go to for that criticism is that it's a different medium, so it must be different.
It's like complaining that a photo of Statue of David doesn't show the whole statue.
Counterpoint: if I sell you a photograph which I advertised as of the statue of David and it's just a zoomed in picture of his back, you would be in your rights to complain about leaving out the important parts.
At that point we're in caveat emptor territory.
But, yes, nice counter point.
Floppy wieners?
I went to see it at noon after dropping the car off for work and was literally the only one in the theatre. I thought it was pretty good.
Yeah, i tend to agree. It was fun and refreshing. It was just kind of... forgettable.
John Carter was great. Zero dollars spent on marketing. They thought it was a household name or something because it was a book.
Yeah I thought it was a fun movie too. It would have been nice to have gotten another scifi series that was more focused on fun.
If you want a good read: John Carter and the Gods of Hollywood
https://www.amazon.com/John-Carter-Hollywood-Michael-Sellers/dp/0615682316
Looks interesting ty!
Me and my wife went to see it and really liked it. Unfortunately I think we were the only couple in the theater at the time. I don’t think it was marketed very well at all by Disney.
The original super Mario bros movie from the 90s. If I come across it I always get the urge to watch it. Its so weird and interesting, love it. Noone in my family will watch it though they hate it :(
Your family are weird then, that movie is cinematic gold.
They say its too weird :(
Got bust out the ol reliable "no u"
This is mine too. If you haven't, look up the drama on set! The crew wore shirts stating they hate the directors, the actors were drunk, Haskins broke his leg and was in a cast most of the time (rumored to have been run over on set by another drunk actor, lol).
It's insane and crazy that we got a movie so fun (seriously, it's just so fun even if it doesn't adhere to the source material).
I didnt know about any of that, thanks for the tip!
Way better than the recent animated movie IMO
Also the new movie basically ripped the exact premise from the OG
A million ways to die in the west is a solid dumb comedy. The movie has dogshit reviews on every review site but I enjoyed it.
I unironically really want to see Seth McFarlane do more comedies like this one. It was a blast all the way through.
I can’t believe I want to see him in more sci-fi. I miss the Orville so much.
For some reason he’s who I pictured in my head when reading Project Hail Mary.
Was that show good? I actually never watched it.
I went in expecting family guy in space and instead I got a really good spoof of star trek with a comfortable mix of low-brow humor and well thought out commentary. I'd honestly give it a go if I were you, Seth McFarland is so much funnier than most give him credit for.
It’s Star Trek with Seth MacFarlane’s humor mixed in. I really enjoy it, and hope the rumors of a season 4 starting filming this year are true.
Plus I have a huge crush on Adrianne Palicki.
I know! I wish he did more.
"Ain't nobody have a dollar!"
"Yeah, show us the dollar!"
*Pulls out a $1 bill; crowd gasps*
"Take your hat off and show some respect, boy, that there's a dollar bill!"
Dad: You're late!
Seth: Late for fucking what?!
Dad: Fair Enough
It's full of good, snappy writing, too. Great skits all throughout.
It's not as good as Ted but still great.
Huh, I think I didn't know (or just forgot) that it was panned... I liked it, it was fun
Green Lantern. I went in expecting cartoony quips and got what I expected. Everyone calls it a stupid movie like they went in expecting Shakespeare and found the Muppets. I went in expecting a live action comic book, and yeah that's pretty much what I got. Fun show, watched it a few times now.
No matter how nice you are about Green Lantern, Ryan Reynolds still won’t call you. Don’t ask how I know, it’s a touchy subject.
I know why he's mad, it was a box office disaster. Nothing can fix that short of a time machine.
I would 100% watch Muppets doing Shakespeare. That's basically what the comedies were in those days anyway.
SOLO - I know everyone hated on this film, but we get a space western mixed with a heist movie. Woody Harrelson and Donald Glover are icing on the cake. Plus we get a robot uprising. 5 bags of popcorn and throw in a couple of those Darth Vader cups.
I did not enjoy the sequels, but Solo? Yeah, that is a solid fun time. I even have a Solo T-shirt that I still wear on occasion.
I don't think this is really a hot take. I know quite a few star wars fans and most of them (including me) love Solo, even those who can't stand any of the other new movies.
It's easily the best Star Wars movie in the last 30 years. Its only major faults are some bits of bad cinematography and a bit of cringey fan service.
That's Rogue One.
I did like Solo, but can't but feel it would have been better had the main character not been Han Solo, because nobody was really going to live up to Harrison Ford in the originals.
Its easily Roque One, Theres just no competition movie wise. In general its Andor, that show was just peak Star Wars
Nah, Rogue One is as bad as the other sequels. The main character is about as interesting as a wet dish rag. Several of the side characters are annoying. Zombie Tarkin. There's no story arc or characters that are worth caring about and the entire plot is just a thin excuse to have cringey fan service and CG action scenes.
For some reason I was thinking you were talking about that Mario Van Peebles movie
Yea I enjoyed Solo, good popcorn flick
The latest matrix. I liked it for the critique that it is.
I thought it was absolutely hilarious satire, and I laughed at the entire movie. Everyone told kept telling me to be quiet, but I just couldn’t stop laughing.
It was wonderfully self-aware, and it tore it itself to shreds.
Yeah, I wasn't that excited about the idea of sequel in the first place, mostly because I didn't think there was much point to one. So when I saw Resurrections I was actually pleasantly surprised, and genuinely enjoyed the different tone and lamposting of the dumbness of unnecessary sequels.
This movie did not work with me at all. I kinda understand the satirical elements but as a fan of the first film I couldn't stomach it.
The parts where its clear they were forced to make the
video gamemovie or someone else would is great. The rest is... not good imo. Neo uses the force push every 30 seconds and solves all of his problems.As a huge fan of Sense8, I loved the latest Matrix.
If you ignore the leads Valerian was an incredible set.
The desert bazaar sequence was actually tolerable.
But yes, the art department deserves full recognition.
Sometimes you just have to turn off expectations towards the story and accept that a movie is worth watching because it is pretty. I first learned this lesson with Speed Racer, but Valorian is another big title for me that falls into this category.
I don't think that's a particularly hot take. Pretty much everyone thinks that it was good with the minor exception of for a the actors.
I don't get the fuss about the leads, either. Came in with no preconceptions & thought it was fine. 🤷
It felt like two highschool drama rivals inexplicably got cast in a big budget show piece. I don't know who the characters are, but they had the chemistry and acting skills of porno step siblings.
Wild Wild West has a 16% on Rotten Tomatoes but I genuinely enjoy that film. League of Extraordinary Gentlemen also at 16% and also a movie I enjoyed
No way ! WWW is a treasured childhood memory of mine, this rotten tomato guy can suck ass
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen aka How audiences unjustly bullied Sean Connery out of acting.
Wait, really? That was an excellent movie. I wanted them to build a franchise around it
Indeed.
Sean Connery's agent had scored him the roles of Gandalf for Lord of the Rings and Morpheus in The Matrix, but turned them down due to feeling the plot was too complicated for audiences to follow. After both of these became money-printing machines, he picked League of Extraordinary Gentlemen despite still having problems with the script believing it would be as big as the other two films and that he wasn't going to miss out on a solid payday three times in a row...
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen would go on to be a box office bomb, and Sean Connery felt he was too "out of touch" with modern audiences to be an actor.
There is good news though, if you want more from the franchise you're in luck. As the movie itself was based off of a comic book which has pretty much the same plot.
The only difference is the movie added "Tom Sawyer" to the group, he isn't in the comic book and had been requested by executives so that there was a token American in the group, fearing audiences wouldn't be able to relate without a member from the good ol' US of A.
Tom did seem kind of tacked on there, rather than fitting with the rest. But of course the executives were right, my American pride liked the symbolism of the ending
Fun fact. Will Smith passed up playing Neo in the Matrix for WWW. I think we got the better deal but it's fun to picture it.
I can see someone liking League if they'd never read the comic.
I've read the comic. I consider them two different things
You asked for one, but I've got two hills to die on, sorry.
Solo: A Star Wars Story was a lot of fun and I thought it was a solid entry. I didn't really like the Sequels or Prequels, but Rogue One and Solo both stuck out as good titles to me.
Lightyear was a good movie. I really enjoyed it and didn't really understand why it got so much flak.
Solo is a great movie. I know it tried a little too hard to answer every question ever about Solo’s backstory, but apart from a clunk here and there, it’s exactly what the idea of “A Star Wars Story” should have been. I would have signed up for more.
Solo was great. Haters will always find flaws.
I actually liked the prequels, and I think they were far better than the stuff they're making now.
Same, I grew up with those movies and along with LotR are some of my all time favorites
Lightyear was great.
Tank Girl, it got shit reviews when it came out, but has grown a cult following since then, https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/tank_girl
I am also partial to Dude Where’s My Car
I don't hate Tank Girl for what it is but for what it could have been. Like that was the greatest casting imaginable for Tank Girl in any era of film and the soundtrack was magical at the time. It had so much potential but got lost due to budget and film industry input
I think the set and costumes are on point for a satirical punk comedy.
both awesome movies. don't trust "experts", siskel and ebert rated Tommy Boy the worst comedy they'd ever seen. fuck them lol
I made the mistake of watching dude wheres my car again recently. I enjoyed it as a kid, but the way that trans charcter was done really upset me. I entirely forgot she existed in the movie, but a cis actress who was dubbed with a cis man voice was used to trick the main charcters into making out and then played as gross out humor. Her whole storyline was just flat out upsetting stereotypes.
The tattoo scene is still a total gem, but the rest of it aged so poorly.
The 90s in general were pretty bad for portrayal of trans and lgb+ characters. Remember Ace Ventura, first one?
I agree, though, close minded people ruin everything.
Pet detective was my favorite movie growing up, now I try to forget it exists. Most movies haven't aged well in terms of casual bigotry of all flavors. Yet they still hold value, some more than others. It's just important to remember they were products of their time. Which makes them good measuring sticks for how audiences have changed. Sometimes the real joke is what I used to find funny as a kid.
Tbh, some of these scenes were pretty mind boggling to me even as a kid. Never understood what people have against different bodies.
Zoltan!
I don’t think Red One deserved the hate it got. I know everyone is getting tired of Marvel and the Rock, but I thought applying a Christmas theme to the tropes was actually refreshing.
Like not a great movie, but way more watchable than the last few Capeshit flicks I’ve seen.
The Rock decided that Republicans buy too much of his shitty tequila to risk taking a stand against things like Actual Fascism right around the same time I got fucking exhausted of seeing him everywhere. I’m done with that meathead.
I did not know anyone really hated that movie, watched it and recommended it to some people. Yeah, the rock not doing it great, but it was a solid film imo, it was an interesting and funny twist on winter mythos. Not great, not worthy of a sequal, but solid.
Same; I've heard nothing but good things about it. My cousin raved about it for so long on Christmas that I downloaded a copy and streamed it from my phone to my aunt's TV. Everyone loved it.
Lady in the Water by M. Night. I think its an amazingly crafted fairy tale.
Upvoting you out of sheer respect, but wow I can't believe there is someone out there that enjoyed that hot garbage.
Oh I get shit on for it all the time if I mention it. I stand by it lol.
I cannot remember a single thing about the movie except that I recall loving the way in which the story was told but hating the story itself.
All I remember is a dude with *one* jacked arm
I really like Wild Wild West, I didn't watch it for forever because of how hated it is/was but thought it was actually funny and enjoyed the mix of steampunk and goofyness. Kevin Kline is always great.
I also like Jingle All the Way and watch it every few years, it's perfectly watchable until the very end when it collapses under a terrible CGI spectacle that just doesn't work
I loved Will Wild West. It was just over hyped when it came out and the theme song got old fast. Other than that it was actually a solid movie.
Jingle all the way is dumb, fun Christmas comedy. I enjoy it annually.
Fun fact:
Will Smith was the first actor approached by the Wachowskis to be Neo in the Matrix.
He turned it down to work on Wild Wild West, and the role of Neo went to Keanu.
Dune (1984)
I thought most people loved that garbage.
And how!
It's glorious garbage.
The Lynch movie is what the characters will always look like in my head. I liked the Syfy miniseries too (which I watched shortly after reading the books). And I also like the new movies.
I like all the Terminator movies. All of them. Time travel, killer robots, Arnold; I know it's wrong but I can't help myself.
Weren't the terminator movies insanely popular?
Edit: i was thinking just the original 2 or 3 movies my bad. I don't even think I saw the ones after that.
The quality dropped off a cliff after Terminator 2. This guy says he likes all of them.
Terminator 3 was great and I'll fight anyone who says otherwise. It completed the story nicely and put a little bow on top of it. If they would have ended the series there, I would have been satisfied.
Salvation was unnecessary, but fun to see stoned off my ass in theaters. Giant robots fighting on a big screen? Sign me the fuck up. Wouldn't go out of my way to see it again, though.
I don't remember a thing from Genesys but I remember enjoying it as well. Haven't seen any other Terminator films.
The trilogy, yeah.
But they make up like half of the total now?
I can see liking everything up to Salvation, but the last two movies are mostly just lazy cash grabs.
I actually enjoyed Dark Fate well enough. It made some ballsy decisions and at least made a modicum of sense.
Dark Fate was awesome, "The Return of Sarah Connor" and all that; I like that they're talking about divergent timelines leading to the same destination - humanity destroying itself through tech. I'll admit that Salvation wasn't great, but if you give me a choice between no Terminators in a movie and Terminators in a movie I'll take the first almost every time.\
I just want to see Terminator vs Predator.
I felt like the problem with Dark Fate was less that the film itself was in any particular way flawed and more that the universe doesn’t really have any more good stories in it.
There are many rich and fertile fictional universes where you can imagine new places and politics and technologies ad infinitum to tell new and exciting stories. There are character universes where you can dig deep into the families and relationships. But Terminator, fundamentally, is just “modern day world” with a very specific doomsday arc. The only story to tell that deserves to be called part of the Terminator universe is the story of thwarting that doomsday. And once you’ve done so perfectly via Terminator 2: Judgment Day, there’s literally no point in sticking around.
I'm taking a big risk after experiencing your last post, but... I actually really loved Prometheus. Alien is in my top 5 movies list, but I still enjoyed it.
I don't get the hate for it. It's weird, tense, spooky and exciting with good looking scenes and interesting characters. It's not a perfect film by any stretch but I goddamn love a psychopathic robot any day.
I don't like the thesis of the movie. It had everything going for it, but the script. Ridley Scott seems to not like scientists seeing as how every scientist dies an ironic death.
I didn't know it had a thesis. If it did, it'd probably be about retribution against the people who give technology to humanity and the dangers of having that technology. Like the myth of Prometheus.
I will give massive props to Riddley for taking a big risk and pushing into a new direction. I suspect massive meddling by the studios. Prometheus had a lot of interesting concepts that just never got a chance to be fleshed out fully. My guess Covenant was going to be the response to that but something happened between the two movies because Covenant is completely divorced thematically and story wise from Prometheus. I'm sorry Riddley never got a chance to live out this interesting new universe.
I notice that a big percentage of "hated" movies tie in with existing fan-bases. New movies in existing franchises, book adaptations, etc. Guess people go in with certain expectations and hate it when those are not met.
I didn't know Prometheus was supposed to tie in with the Alien series (which I loved), so I had no expectations related to that. I enjoyed the movie and I was surprised at the end to see what looked like a Xenomorph.
That being said, I also have my share of movies I hated because they didn't live up to my expectations from the books. I love the Harry Potter movies, but I was disappointed by how much they left out. I couldn't watch The Expanse past the first couple of episodes because of how much was changed. And then there's Foundation, which so ridiculously misses the mark that I'm able to enjoy as a series that just happens to share a title and some character names with the books, but is otherwise an unrelated story.
Lots of people love to hate Cloud Atlas. I see it as flawed work of art with a good message and an amazing cast, produced under such nearly impossible circumstances that we are more than lucky it ever saw the light of day.
I can watch really bad movies as long as the score is good, and cloud atlas has a banger score. How they weave the different timelines while playing that music really does it for me. I've watched it a few times and now that you reminded me I'll probably watch it again soon.
The concept behind Cloud Atlas made for a much better movie than book, IMHO.
Having the same actor play the same part in each time made following the plot easier, at least for me. The book was a bit of a slog at times and following each characterization was confusing.
Plus some of the casting in the movie was really good. Jim Brodbent in particular, I thought, delivered a spectacularly good performance.
You're probably right. I've never read the book.
This is what I expected to see on first watch, and was a bit confused that at least some actors did actually "switch sides" between timelines. Going by interviews, it seems this was possibly meant to reflect an evolution of souls. But to me the message of the movie works just as well, if not better, if you leave out the concept of persistence of souls or individuals altogether, accept that some of them just look similar, and think more in terms of repeating patterns and ideas across eras.
Hard agree. His contemporary and light-hearted "shady publicist to nursing home jail break" plotline also really worked well to ground the movie in between epic-dramatic segments.
It has one of the coolest trailers ever
https://youtu.be/hWnAqFyaQ5s
What's the message? I didn't really catch any, besides some notions about souls, reincarnation and sex not being fixed.
The things you mention are narrative elements. The message is repeated almost like a mantra throughout the movie, and later revealed or summarized as the 'prophetic' words of Son-Mi:
This is the core thesis of the movie, standing in direct opposition to the various antagonists' ideology, which can be summed up as self-serving nihilism and upholding the status quo of might makes right / the natural order by any means.
Thanks. That completely slipped from my memory.
Reminds me of The Egg short story I've reread yesterday.
https://www.galactanet.com/oneoff/theegg_mod.html
It spoke to me when I watched it at the right point in my personal development. As is often the case with movies or experiences that try to convey something meaningful, whether the message lands depends just as much on the watcher. I honestly don't blame anyone for whom it was a lengthy and confusing blurb. The narrative structure and casting choices are so far outside what audiences are used to, that the script was thrown out by every major Hollywood studio at the time despite the prestigious names behind it. I myself was quite confused on some of the timelines and characters until my 2nd rewatch, and that's a lot to ask for a movie of this length. It really never had a shot at mass appeal, so in an economic sense those studios were right. I'm just fascinated and grateful it ever got made. It truly was a leap of faith and a labor of love for many, the Wachowskis and Tom Hanks in particular. And I feel like this shines through in the final release, rough edges and all.
I read the story you linked and I absolutely see the parallels. I feel like I may have read it once already years ago. It's quite the philosophically intriguing concept.
Kurzgesagt has also arranged it in short film form if that's your thing : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6fcK_fRYaI Personally, it's one of the most impactful stories I've read.
Ain't that the tru-tru.
I absolutely loved Cloud Atlas and I was crying at the end. I didn't know anything about it, didn't know about the book, didn't know it was hated until now. Just a movie that I liked the trailer for, so I watched it and I'm glad I did.
Not universally hated by any means. But there are plenty of people that expect a movie to fit a certain Hollywood formula, which includes not challenging your audience too much. And so they judge movies by standards that an epic artistic endeavor like Cloud Atlas was never trying to meet.
Also the whole "gender- and race-bending" made some people uncomfortable, even though it's merely the same actors portraying completely different characters.
Add to this that certain influential studio voices in Hollywood had previously rejected the project outright when they were first approached by the Wachowskis. So it was clear they would never give it a fair shake after it was produced in Europe, against their judgment and without their blessing, and under such unconventional circumstances.
Check out Mr. Nobody (2009) if you liked Cloud Atlas.
It needed to be like 4 hours longer to capture the feel of the book. Some of the actors didn’t have the range to pull off all their parts which caused some sequences to fall flat. It’s still good though, I remember hearing a lot of positive things about it.
Man, I love that movie totally unironically. Cannibal Hugh Grant, dude.
Matrix 2 & 3. I don't see, or watch, them as separate movies. Rather, together with Matrix 1, they form one big masterpiece for me. But I can see that it doesn't really fit the 100 minutes format audiences came to expect, and breaking it in three parts did not do it any good. Plus, I guess I'm just a fan of long movies as I've also sat through the original, restored "Until the End of the World," which runs for about 5 hours.
Yea I'm with you on this. They expand on an otherwise superb unit in a rather intricate way, bringing in so much lore and characters, complexifying the stakes, that I can see how they can be perceived as diluting a very pure work of art, and losing the beautiful esoterism of the first. But it's two of those films you need to watch several times to wrap your head around and appreciate rightfully. Just like The Big Lebowski, in a different way
I mean, 2 and 3 are also largely a deconstruction of 1. The Matrix is an incredibly well made movie with really stupid themes. 2 and 3 do an excellent job highlighting why stuff like "Neo is the Chosen One" is fundamentally bad storytelling, but there were a lot of audiences who loved The Matrix fully and completely. I can understand why those people were disappointed when 2 and 3 weren't just more senseless violence in black trenchcoats, but ultimately the series wasn't made for them.
IIRC, 2 and 3 were meant to be one film, but it got split due to studio meddling. I wonder if there is a mega-cut adapting the whole trilogy into a single runtime.
Matrix 2 and 3 were films that always got a bad rep, but were alright if you sat down and watched them.
Matrix 4 is.... best left forgotten, and I say that as someone who likes Indy 4
When I binged all 3 movies I realised that 2 and 3 should be watched together as a single film, it makes it so much better
I get quite annoyed when people talk trash about 2 and 3. If it’s not for you then that’s fine but saying they’re not good really gets under my skin.
The mid-2000s A-Team movie comes to mind. It was terrible. The casting was off and there was no real plot to speak of. However, it was so much over the top that it turned pretty funny actually. I probably won't be watching it a second time though.
They fly a tank - it's perfect!
You can't fly a tank foo'!
Mythbusters covered it, and said that everything in that scene was within the realm of possibility.
I think they were bribed by Jessica Beil's thighs
Aren’t we all…
Murdoch was dead on. I thought face was pretty good. Liam did a decent Hannibal and BA was fine.
What irked me was this weird back story of like... trying to let face taking over to lead the group sort of thing, plus the romance. It really rubbed me the wrong way.
Like, the A team isn't some club, they're this perfect storm of chaos towards bad guys, there isn't so much a hierarchy as just this inexplicable plot armor and audacity. If it wasn't *all four* it would all fall apart.
Man I'd forgotten about that film but I also really enjoyed it. It was fully self aware and made no attempt to take itself seriously, and if you're in the right mindset for that then it's a great time.
Might have to watch it again.
You've just reminded me this is a thing, and I'm going to get high and watch it today.
I love The Polar Express.
The most widely hated thing about it is the mocap. Not much to say here, I'm just straight-up not bothered by it. I think it looks fine. It's not incredibly expressive like a stylized animated film could be, but it doesn't look actively bad to me in any way.
The way the titular express inexplicably gains and loses rolling stock scene by scene and behaves in absurd ways like bending around the mountain are a common punchline. "BuT iT's A mAgIc TrAiN!!!" doesn't really solve it for me either. But on a casual viewing it's mostly inoffensive. A silly curiosity.
Some say the plot of the film spends too much time aimlessly noodling around and throwing in needless filler scenes. Meh. If you ask me that's where all the meat of the film is. The actual *plot* of the film has nothing interesting to say. "Kid doesn't believe in Santa. Magic Christmas hijinks ensue. Kid believes in Santa now. The end." Riveting. Nah, the so-called "filler" is *absolutely* the meal here.
The fact that the film literally has five named characters, and the main character *isn't* one of them is hilarious. To even get to that number you have to count both the Scrooge puppet and the kid who the elves were monitoring in a single scene as characters, and after that, one of the remaining three is Santa Claus. Just more weight to my point that the story doesn't matter, lmao.
Say what you will about the animation, but the cinematography is incredible. So many dynamic long-track camera shots from interesting angles. Especially whenever the steam locomotive is on screen. God, steam locomotives are so fucking cool. I don't even care that it's full of inaccuracies if you actually look up close. They put a lot of effort into it and that effort shows. It's quite the treat.
The set design of the North Pole is fantastic. It's admittedly kinda fucked that it's modeled after a real world Pullman company town, but I guess it's appropriate as a joke about the whole Santa's workshop thing while also incorporating a neat little nod to real life railroad lore. Beyond that, it's blindingly radiant of all that Victorian-era charm that most of the modern secular Christmas tradition is born from. The serene night snow amidst the rustic red brickwork illuminated by glowing amber gaslamps... augh, it's so aggressively *cozy*!
All the pneumatic and other steampunk-adjacent elf tech is a treat as well. The film is certainly no slouch in breathing its own unique spin of whimsy into Santa's toy factory. It's not the most whimsical out there, but it's definitely putting in work.
Alan Silvestri's score is phenomenal. It's all delightfully extra. Every single song in the film that's an original composition is a banger and every song that isn't an original composition for the film is part of that time-tested canon of hits from the 50s and 60s. I think a lot of people are fed up sick of the latter but, I dunno, I grew up listening to them on my Now That's What I Call Christmas CD, and to me their sound is synonymous with that warm, nostalgic holiday cheer I get from the season. Even if I don't get around to actually watching the movie, you know damn well I'm putting The Polar Express's soundtrack in my December shuffle.
Genuine S tier Christmas film. Well worth every single fault.
I never understood the hate for it either. Sure, the animation is a bit dated and has some uncanny valley, but it's a fun family movie.
Also has the greatest scene in cinema history: the train that drifts on ice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COdoHpU_a8U
For your unhinged pleasure, if you haven't yet experienced.
That movie feels more ridiculous every time I watch it. I still like it though. One thing that's always stuck out to me is the sound design. You practically don't even need to literally watch it, the soundstage is so detailed that it's practically like I'm there just by hearing it. All the little grunts and rattles of the train just so fucking cool
It's funny, I hadn't watched it since I was a kid and it was on at my families house by chance during Christmas, I could not get through how uncanny valley it all looks.
Not sure if it was HATED, but Hook if we're going by reviews. I can't imagine any kid seeing that movie and not loving it though.
I wore that tape out as a kid!
Hook! Hook! Where's the Hook!?!
"Hey Rufio... Why don't you go suck on a dead dog's nose."
A line I quote often.
Super Mario Bros. with Bob Hoskins and John Leguizamo. I don't care how bad it is. It's in the campy so-bad it's good pool of movies and nothing anyone says can change my mind. The fact that they were drunk off their asses just makes it even funnier in my opinion.
Specifically because the directors had no idea what they were doing, the whole thing ended up being wildly creative. I've always unironically enjoyed it.
Seeing it in the theater as a kid was wild. I was confused but I loved it. I could tell it wasn’t Nintendos Mario Bros but it definitely has its own charm.
I saw that shit in theaters. Also Final Fantasy Spirits Within.
Neither time did I fully comprehend what I had just witnessed.
Johnny Mnemonic. Keanu cannot act for shit in it, the story isn't exactly gripping, hell the action in it is somewhere in the shitter. Oh, and Henry Rollins is a nerdy doctor. All if it adds up to a campy trip of slop that triggers my guilty pleasure.
People consider it a bad movie? News to me
Watching this as a kid that scene where he puts on cyber gloves and hacks his own brain was a wild ride. It's so ridiculous but still better than much of the "hacking" Hollywood depicts as far as entertainment goes.
Lots of people hated Avatar (the blue aliens, not arrow forehead boy), but I loved that movie so much that I saw it twice in IMAX 3d.
It was one of the highest grossing movies of all time. Pretty much everyone loved that movie.
I've only ever read negative opinions of the movie in online communities. I suppose the types of communities I'm a part of aren't indicative of the general public, case in point, Lemmy.
I personally liked Jamie Fox as Electro.
Freddie Got Fingered was completely panned when it came out, but I absolutely loved it! It was so ahead of its time, Tim and Eric-style comedy.
Couldn't agree more. Freddy Got Fingered is the cultest of classics. RedLetterMedia's take on it is great (YouTube link not provided)
I’ll check it out! I went in knowing nothing except that it’s the “worst movie ever” and I laughed sooooo hard throughout!
loved it too, got the DVD out of a $5 bin
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Cats (2019). The story is good, the music is good, the casting is good. People made it a huge meme cause of the CGI, but even that is pretty well done. It has a beautiful story, and if you're a pet lover like me, it really makes you emotional. Its also fucking insane. The entire time you watch it, you just go "people spent years of their life and millions to make this". Its a very surreal experience. I've also haven't met a person who has watched the movie and didn't like it.
To be fair, I haven't met anyone who has watched the movie
I was a fan of the musical long before the movie, and the movie was meh. The celebrity performances ranged from yuck to average, and the attempts at added humor were way off.
But I can't see how it could be translated into a movie much better (I missed Growltiger's last stand, and felt Beautiful Ghosts detracted from Memory as the emotional peak). Dancers in tights would look ridiculous (and we have the 1998 "movie" for that), and any more realistic cats would remove what little remains of the physicality on film.
So no issues with the maligned CGI, would watch again, no match for the adorably ridiculous stage show.
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Waterworld is Mad Max on a boat
The pitch was probably something like "What if Mad Max but instead of sand we have water?" And the producer guy would be something like "Will the people still be dirty even with all that water?" And the screen writer guy: "Wouldn't be an post apocalyptic world if the people is not dirty"
I grew up with Men in Tights. My room mate grew up with Spaceballs. It was really fun to swap movies and show each other another Mel Brooks movie.
(If you dont treat those titles and movies, that sentence has a very different meaning)
Both feature Kevin Costner's ass
i always thought the last jedi was one of the best star wars films
I feel like it had good scenes but was a bad movie.
Good A plot, bad B plot, and a C plot that should have been cut entirely.
Fully agreed
This is kind of a cheat, as it's been significantly re-evaluated since its release, so I'm not alone, but IMO Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me is a masterpiece - it was HATED when it came out though, and even now I suspect there's a lot of people who would say the same.
So many. For an example, the Star Wars Sequels (and Prequels). I think they were fine. Okay, 8 dropped a bit and had a lot of bad moments, but altogether, they were enjoyable. I had fun watching them.
Are they Oscar worthy? No. Not at all, not by a long shot, but I had fun.
I think we as a society are way too polar, it's either good or bad, trash or perfect. I think we've lost sight that things can simply be good, or fun. I had fun watching those movies. I don't think Rise of Skywalker wasted my time. Could it have been better? Of course. Was the writing lazy? Definitely at times. Did I enjoy watching it? Yes.
Agree with all of this, other than the prequels, which I really didn't like.
Overall, I tend to just be happy to be watching anything star wars. None of the movies are that deep, I'm just in it to watch space wizards with laser swords flying around in space ships with robot sidekicks battling evil. As long as most of those boxes get checked, I'm pretty happy with any star wars media, and in my mind I'm right back to being a little kid watching Star wars for the first time. Anything more is just icing on the cake.
Now I can absolutely rank them and admit that some of them are better movies than others, and the sequels and prequels definitely drop the ball on that in a lot of ways
And while on the whole, the sequels and prequels aren't great movies (arguably the OT aren't even great movies if we're being totally objective) I think that in a lot of ways they do a better job at universe building by dropping hints at other parts of the galaxy that we don't get to explore right then and there, they just do a shitty job of following through on them and tying them together into a coherent narrative.
I think that just about any part of episode 8 for example could have been expanded out into a pretty cool movie or show, there was a lot to work with there, they just didn't work together as the same movie
The force dyad thing between Rey and Kylo is pretty fucking cool
Casino heist or spycraft movies are a pretty tried and true movie formula, I probably would have saved it for something like a Solo movie, or maybe Andor. The stuff about the military industrial complex profiting off of selling weapons to both sides could work for either of them. Han is from Cornelia, where the arms dealers are building a lot of these battleships and such, and it's also established that he's a gambler so a casino makes sense for him, or Andor could work well with the gritty political side of things.
Fucking broom kid! Let's get more non-jedi non-sith force sensitives
Finn was just criminally underutilized all-around
The Holdo maneuver was pretty fucking badass
You can argue about how the bombing run doesn't make sense from a physics perspective, or was tactically stupid, but it was a cool scene nonetheless
I could go on, I think you could build out a pretty decent movie, show, or at least an episode or two of a show from any of those ideas if they just committed to the idea
John Carter
Joker: Folie à Deux
If you’re not a Joker fanboy and have an open mind, this is a damn good film.
*Trap* - Absolutely ridiculous movie with an insane plot. Basically a promo for the director's daughter to launch a pop star career IRL. It should be distasteful, and it is, however it was such dumb fun I'm ignoring all of those bad points.
I liked it too, josh hartnett is entertaining to watch!
my teen and i really enjoyed this movie. so absurdly stupid and a lot of fun!
“Freddy Got Fingered”. Not a masterpiece but I found it hilarious. Was surprised it was rated so low online 🤷♂️
Daddy, would you like some sausages?
Daddy would you like some sausage? Daddy would you like some sausages?
One of my favorite movie scenes
We've got Tom Green, Harlan Williams, and the rip Rip Torn
Any time Tom Green comes up in conversation I have to also link this gem: Tom Green freestyling
Since I'm on the topic, other favorite clips are:
https://youtu.be/p8aTHf01OFo And this one: https://youtu.be/pZAckMNSKWU (For the impatient)
Roger is by far my favorite character in any show so I suppose I'm a little biased
I don't think I've seen it since in came out, in that era when Tom Green was at the too of his career and i was a teenager. I'm curious how it holds up now, but I have a feeling that I won't enjoy it anymore.
You gotta like dumb humor, and I mean a step down from the Seth Rogan and friends type of movies lol.
If you don’t enjoy those, probably won’t enjoy FGF anymore.
I like Ad Astra. People hate it because they view it as a shitty scifi with lots of plot holes, but I view it from the perspective of brad pitt is actually in therapy in hypnosis or whatever to address the issues he has with his father, and the movie is really the journey through his mind and all the roadblocks and barriers he's built up internally. Then the plot holes seem reasonable and less relevant.
I thought this movie was received well? It's such a beautiful film that lingers with you for a while after. And the cinematography is superb
Maybe, it's got a 6.5 on IMDb, and I remember people complaining about it being a bad scifi, but maybe that was just a small group, idk
It's not hated, it's squarely in the middle of 'video game movies' (so probably lower than middle to the general public) but one of my favorite movies, far and away my favorite video game movie, is 'Rampage' with Dwayne Johnson and Jeffrey Dean Morgan.
I can't fathom how anyone could not enjoy that flick.
I also genuinely enjoyed 'the crew' (2002?) which most people seem to dislike (it was around 15% on rotten tomatoes last I checked)
Crystal Skull
Why do people rag on the fridge bit? It's the most plausible bit of the film up to that point!
Alien Covenant.
People talk about the characters being unrealistic, I think they're just different to movie characters and normal humans.
I really enjoyed the film.
The Postman. Compared to other post apocalyptic cheese fests it feels like a more nuanced display of societal breakdown and the re-emergence of the barter economy.
Wait. The Postman isn't considered good? I never bothered looking it up. I thought it was a damn good movie. It really makes you think.
This also reminds me of the social analysis of what actually happens to masses in post disasters.
Look at the breakdown of Katrina. Yes there was rape and murder, but mostly people banded together to survive. There's always going to be a criminal element and crimes of opportunity. But it wasn't some selfish, self centered hellscape of every man for themselves. People helped each other and actually showed humanity.
I really like that movie too. It’s been a long time since I’ve seen it and now I want to watch it again
I thought Waterworld was fine.
Oh, man, where to start. I mean, the Kelvin Trek movies are definitely not the best Trek, but I do enjoy all of them. But speaking of contrarian appreciation, I think most of Star Trek Discovery is also pretty solid, barring perhaps the very last season.
I'm partial to Lynch's Dune, too. Maybe I just got used to it over time?
In the least hip stance possible, I actually think there are very few bad Marvel movies and most are worth at least a cheerful watch (not you, Doctor Strange 2, you suck).
Discovery was such a waste of potential. They kept killing off the interesting characters and promoting the least interesting ones. Then the secret to saving the universe one season was rescuing a crying lonely alien. 🙄
He was more the cause of the end of the world than the solution, but yeah.
I thought it was... fine? I mean, not the most well rounded thing in Trek history, but fine.
Discovery suffered from being just fine after having to deal with massive backlash for trying to be different. That and carrying a season-long arc while trying to be a Trek TV show in between the movie bits.
But I would absolutely watch any of the first four seasons of Disco than any part of Picard. Any day. Season five is a mess and I really don't vibe with their take on spirituality, but that's mostly just me.
Wild wild west. I wish to be entertained.
Fired Up!
Was genuinely surprised to see it rated so low. I enjoyed it at least as much as Not Another Teen Movie. I appreciated all the fast quips and it being a satire of a cheerleader movie while simultaneously being a cheerleader movie.
When people asky why I did cheerleading I always point them to that film.
I also legitimately loved this movie. Wonderful balance of satire and comedy.
Joker 2 is amazing
This year I genuinely enjoyed Megalopolis. It looks great and it's thoughtful. People won't "get it" for probably 10 years.
There is nothing to get. It is even more basic than philosophy 101, yet it thinks it is some sort of insightful writing. It is cringe and embarrassing, kinda like a 15yo who just read a reddit post on /r/philosophy and then got high and wrote a movie script.
I do think it is a "so bad, it is actually good" kind of movie. It is almost like a sarcastic movie, making fun of pretentious movies. Maybe this will become the narrative in the future, especially once Coppola is dead.
It will become a cult classic, but not for the reasons Coppola wants.
That movie got bad reviews? I liked it, it was hopeful and came out at a good time for it.
Edit: loved shia labeouf in it too
That bow scene was the funniest shit.
I’m sure the films would have been far far far better received if they hadn’t completely trashed almost every single character trait that had been established over decades and decades of world building. He took an established ip and tore it to bits to make a film. If he’d have given the characters different names no one would’ve known it was a Star Trek film. The new films have literally no continuity with all that came before. I think that’s where the hate comes from.
I loved the FNAF movie
It's great for those of us that love fnaf stuff
I really like Alien: Covenant. Micheal Fassbender is fantastic in that movie.
Awesome cinematography, awesome vibe, awesome creatures and Aliens, and a fantastic ending.\
It’s my second favorite Alien movie.
Okay, thanks to that statement the flamethrowers are gonna come out; let me explain: 1. Alien is a nigh untouchable masterpiece. 2. Alien: Covenant 3. Aliens is a good movie. I don’t quiet like it as much as an Alien-Movie and also am generally not that big of a fan as quite a lot of people seem to be. 3. Alien Romulus. Okay, nice movie I guess. The are some plot holes like: How do they know Ridley threw the Xenomorph out of the airlock? She is still in Cryosleep. But generally quite enjoyable. Jumping Facehuggers are a nice touch. 3. Prometheus. I also don’t dislike this one. Even though they got lost in the weeds on this one a bit. 8. …… 8. …… 8. …… 99. Alien 3: Bad. 100. Alien Resurrection: Utter Garbag.
Add Alien vs Predator to the list
I really enjoyed Alien VS Predator also. Watch it whenever it's on.
I personally haven’t watched those movies. Maybe someone in this thread has watched them and befitting this thread likes them?
I won't go as far as to say Alien 3 was *good*. But I will say this:
Alien 3 was exactly the movie that it *had* to be in order to end the original trilogy properly from a story/thematic perspective.
Hamlet 2 is genuinely hilarious, and I watch it far more often than I should.
Rock me, sexy jesus.
Hamlet 2 was a great movie, you're right. Introduced my to Tuscon Arizona
The twilight movie series. I've watched the entire thing at least 3 times, still love it. Meme scenes aside, they're actually quite nice
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As someone who absolutely loved Cloud Atlas, I read the reviews for Jupiter Ascending hoping to be blown away yet again and I just couldn't bring myself to even watch it. Considering The Matrix Resurrections was so bad I almost left the theater, I thought I chose right... Wachowskis have repeatedly missed the mark lately. Maybe I'll give it a watch anyway.
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This is one of my comfort movies. I really wish it had done well and I feel like the marketing team dropped the ball on it. The whole bureaucracy navigation montage was a fun ride.
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I liked Madame Web.
I know in most places online that’s tantamount to saying you enjoy being mean to puppies & kittens, but I enjoyed the movie.
Why? Because of the precognition plot element. Was it as smooth & impressive as Knives Out? No, but I’m still glad I watched it.
I quite liked Kraven but all I see of it online is comparisons of which is worst that or Madam Web.
I personally didn’t think Kraven was a ‘good’ movie but I at least had a great time watching it in all its weirdness, where Madam Web was just a slog for me
Madame Web is basically pointless nonsense, at least Kraven had halfway decent action and an actual plot.
Not claiming it's the best film ever just I enjoyed it for what it was really, just think people are being very harsh in that comparison.
Batman v Superman and Justice League (I didn't watch original versions though).
That’s an important distinction. The director’s cuts were worlds better than the originals.
People hate the JJ Star Trek films? I've only ever heard nothing but praise for them.
A lot of Star Trek fans didn't like them. Star Trek trends more towards, "traditional," sci-fi, which is more focused on exploring scientific and philosophical concepts in fiction (think Jules Verne or Isaac Asimov). What Abrams produced was basically just an action movie in a futuristic setting. It's sorta like how, even though Star Wars is set in an advanced galactic civilization, it has more in common with the fantasy genre than traditional sci-fi.
That doesn't necessarily mean classic Star Trek is better or smarter than the Abrams movies or Star Wars. In fact, a lot of Star Trek is cheesy, dated, and kinda dumb (and not just the original series; even TNG has a lot of cringe in it). However, it does mean that the Abrams films were a pretty big genre shift that put a lot of fans off.
One my nerdiest habits is to watch old sci-fi content, especially if it was considered high brow and intelligent for its days, and chuckle at outdated science, disproven hypothesis, and people in the future using technology considered outdated in present.
Star Trek (especially earlier episodes) is a goldmine for this as Kirk is shown test a file with his ESP test results (It was taken very seriously at the time, and still would have its vocally mainstream supporters as recently as the mid-90s. Now it goes back and forth between being considered fringe with some mild evidence that may support it and being entirely written off as complete nonsense or in other words, PSI is bunk), and Spock is seen using what is basically an abacus.
Though I think my favorite "Science goof" on the show, is when tribbles are said to be bisexual instead of hermaphroditic. Simply because I'm literally autistic and still think "lol gay" is funny.
I like watching old sci-fi to see how the tech of the day was reflected in the tech or the, "future." The original Enterprise looks like it was run on colorful 8-tracks. The TGN Enterprise looked like it was full of microwave touch-screen interfaces. The Abrams Enterprise...looks like an Apple store with a big chrome throttle. The original Alien movies probably hold up the best; aside from the CRTVs, that technology still seems like a plausible future.
I enjoy both. The original series is so dated (buttons, knobs, switches, and lights on the control panels? Pffff) that even as a fan I find it hard to look at.
No one seemed to take the show that seriously. I don't think anyone had a clue it would turn into a whole franchise, and the acting is so hammy I can't stand looking at a lot of the scenes.
All that said that even old start tell movies were more action oriented than a typical episode plot. (Except for maybe the first movie, which unless I'm remembering wrong literally was almost a carbon copy of an episode)
Star Trek: The Motion Picture, aka "The film where nothing happens"
For me, what becomes even more dated than the old tech are the cultural attitudes. The original series is supposed to be an egalitarian, utopian society, but they men treat the women like it's an episode of Mad Men. TGN, on the other hand, is trying so hard not to be sexist that the romance scenes sound like they were written by a virgin who only learned about sex from HR meetings.
I didn't mind the first Abrams movie. I thought the story was pretty mediocre, but it looked good visually, and they captured the characters nicely. The second movie went off the rails, though. They invented interplanetary transporters and cured death. It feels like that would have had massive, status quo changing consequences for the entire franchise, but I guess not.
The original movies certainly have more action in them than the series (though they're definitely not as action-packed as the Abrams movies), and they're also not as interested in exploring sci-fi concepts as the show, but to me, they're defined by fan-service more than anything else. They found an excuse to put the characters in modern times, let Kirk create peace with the Klingons, and literally met God.
Yeah that was a bit crazy. But I didn't really think about it too long because almost everything else is supposedly a whole other timeline now, so it's a not point.
Also I've seen "Beyond" twice now, but got distracted both times so I still don't know much about it.
It's ridiculed for the the use of too much lense flare. It's not hated
Hardcore fans think it's "dumb"
Trekkies didn't like them for being too "Star Wars" of an approach to Star Trek, but people looking for a good sci-fi romp that just happens to have the Star Trek name on it liked them.
Basically "They put breasts and lesbians in Citizen Kane to keep modern audiences from falling asleep, now old people hate it."
Personally I was never that into Star Trek to begin with but I completely understand the need to "Star Wars it up" a little for a Modern Trek movie
I mean TOS is pretty good if you like old sci-fi (and I do) and quite dry if you don't (but that's just 60's media in general, the line between "Play" and "TV" was still being figured out), TNG is a mixed bag (When it's good it's an unforgettable must watch, DS9 is THE ABSOLUTE GOAT AND I WILL DO NOTHING BUT PRAISE IT! I'd worship the ground Armin Shimmerman walks on if I didn't think the Ferengi would charge to make me pay for the privilege, and Voyager and beyond (Shows currently running on Paramount+ included) you want nothing to do with. (Protip: Don't namedrop influential figures who are still alive as "people honored as gods in the future", you'll look really stupid when everyone's kissing Elon Musk's ass on your show as being the "Greatest Mind of his time" but then he buys twitter a week later and declares the Federation to be a Woke Mindvirus ran by socialist transgender money-stealers who do evil unAmerican things like try to feed the poor and judge people based on the content of their character instead of the color of their skin. Especially when it becomes common knowledge that he's the unsexy version of a himbo, and his staff constantly tries to keep him away from the engineers for fear his idiocy will waste their time and/or get them fired)
Voyager especially pisses me off, because how do you steal the premise of Red Dwarf (marooned in space with no way to get home, and getting into shenanigans hoping to find the way back), only decide not to make it a parody, and the result is, I still manage to take Dave Lister more seriously as a character than Janeway?
Lower Decks is okay when it's not being overly self-referential, when it isn't it's a worthy successor to Red Dwarf as far as "Comedy with relatable idiots IN SPACE!" goes, when it is it's like "Hey, remember on Star Trek when [CHARACTER] did [THING]?" and wondering why that in and of itself isn't a joke.
I won't say it's *hated* but I feel like it completely fell under the radar because of covid.
Ron's Gone Wrong
I really liked it. It came out of 20th century studios, I suppose it's technically under Disney now. It got released and no one gave it the time of day.
I loved that movie, definitely worth a watch.
As a non-fan, I thought the JJ Abrams Star Trek movies were well received. All the casual trek fans around me seemed to like them, at least
I really like star trek as a whole (besides discovery and picard (mostly)). I think JJ Abrams Star Trek is absolutely great. It's a cometely different take and it' great entertainment around some great themes.
10,000 BC. Pretty sure it got a raspberry or whatever for being the worst movie.
I dont know why people think it needs to be historically accurate or believe, its an adventure movie.
Such a fun adventure.
People really like to hate on Jurassic World, but I quite enjoyed it.
Honestly I think people hate it because they called it Jurassic World instead of Jurassic Park 4, so Lizard brain sees it as an enemy of Jurassic Park.
The entire franchise has been solid. Dinosaurs breaking their cages? Man's hubris revealed?!? Chaos theory for some reason?
2&3 were great examples of late 90's brainless action flicks. Highly recommend.
The movie "Stay" got some really bad reviews. I was absolutely blown away by it and it is one of my favourite movies of all time.
Breakin'
Breakin' 2 Electric Boogaloo
Surf Ninjas
All arguably bad. All enjoyable and I have a good time watching them.
Arguably? lol
Surf Ninja! Sad that money can't buy knives.
The fact I was eight years old when it was released may have had a bearing, but the Clone Wars movie.
Chicken Little - I'm not here to defend it, but it has a place in my heart.
'Meet the Robinsons' is another classic in my book
That movie always made me tear up at the end.
All I remember about that movie is the line "I have a big head.... And little arms!"
There is an often panned movie starring Robin Williams called Club Paradise. It's not a good movie but it's a fantastic feature length SNL skit.
I'm not even going to call it a *guilty pleasure*, but Josie and the Pussycats was a movie that I genuinely adored *long* before people started to appreciate it for the satire that it is.
As a CIS male I got endlessly mocked, but I stuck to my guns.
I honestly thought Morbius was a breath of fresh air for ditching the "Self-aware, meta, woke!" trends that MCU was chasing and just told a dark transhumanist story with super heroish themes.
Like I'd rather watch Morbius again than most of the MCU films made Post-End Game.
And Warcraft really wasn't a bad movie at all, it was just bitten by the "Anything that is in the Fantasy Genre is automatically a LOTR ripoff!" bug that had been going around for awhile.
If it had came out around the time when audiences stopped caring about what critics think (Sonic's 2020 film seems to be where that started), it would have done a lot better (Sonic leading the way for video game movies being taken seriously also would have helped)...
Hell if Warcraft (2016) had come out in 2020, that would have been after Blizzard's fall from grace ("Don't you guys have phones? No? Time to shit all over the WoW lore and ruin Overwatch then!"), meaning that people would probably
Finally, I'm still firmly in the camp that in 10 years people will come around on the sequels like they did for the prequels (Last Jedi might still be considered the "Not as good" one admittedly). I can't say the same about the various "Franchise fatigue? What's that?" shows that Disney
keptkeeps greenlighting though."Alcolyte was a good show, but no one saw it? Damn, time to release Skeleton Crew I guess!"
Man, I'm so sad about the warcraft movie.. partly because I agree with you and I think it was pretty good and it deserved sequels but also partly because it feels like it could've been better? Felt a bit hard to follow at times, and I remember reading some of Duncan Jones' tweets that implied the final cut wasn't his decision and that there was quite a bit of footage left out. Shame... They should try a tv series.
At this point I just want Blizzard to be forgotten
Dare Devil, directors cut. I thought it was as good a super hero origins movie as any of the others.
Same
I don’t think anyone hates it but Congo has a low rating online despite it being one of my favourite movies of all time. I can recite or word word
Stop eating my sesame cake!
My young kid self was *not* ready for that movie.
Holmes and Watson with Will Ferrel and John C. Reilly
I think I managed to make it like... 15 minutes? Into the movie?
What about it did you enjoy?
Terminator Genesys. It's loathed by terminator fans for a variety of reasons and I won't defend any of the writing or casting decisions, but I do give it credit for trying to do something new with the story and time aspect. I think it could have been a lot better if they took a bit more time with it and recast a few characters, but overall it's a popcorn flik to me, turn your brain off and enjoy.
A story where Skynet's the good guy and wants to evolve humanity instead of killing it would be friggin awesome, but it makes for a better novel than action movie.
The Prince of Persia movie. Also God's of Egypt.
Norm MacDonald's Dirty Work is actually pretty funny.
TV, but same idea...
I didn't particularly hate Dexter season 5. The later seasons were worse, and of course it doesn't hold a candle to season 4... But I just don't get the flat out hate. It was fine, and I kinda liked it.
Wouldn't say really enjoyed, but Cats didn't deserve the hate it got. I saw it with my (then) girlfriend about five years ago when Frozen 2 was sold out and we had the choice of seeing this, Star Wars Episode IX, or Jumanji: The Next Level instead. We chose Cats.
I'm gonna ignore the elephant in the room that's the atrocious CGI, and say that Tom Hooper didn't do a terrible job besides that. Most of the movie adaptations of each song were at least on-par with the musical. 'Jellicle Songs For Jellicle Cats', 'Bustopher Jones' and 'Skimbleshanks The Railway Cat' were the three that stood out as the movie's best songs.
Only three songs were far worse than the musical, and they were big ones...
The Old Gumbie Cat was awful. Rebel Wilson absolutely butchered Jennyanydots by portraying her as a fat lazy glutton, complete with awful voice, awful ad-lib jokes thrown around the song and a part where she literally starts munching on CGI humanoid cockroaches marching around the dinner table. I mean... as much as I hate James Corden, he at least played the role of Bustopher Jones (a literal aristocratic fat-cat) really well, and unlike Wilson, his ad-libs were actually funny. I'd keep him in the cast, 100%.
The Rum Tum Tugger is another bad one. Jason Derulo's vocal performance was really weak, but I don't have much else to say about it.
Magical Mr Mistoffelees was the worst though. Hooper legitimately took the most iconic song from Cats and massacred it by portraying the titular musician who ultimately saves Old Deuteronomy as a nervous wreck. This is one that the Rum Tum Tugger should have sang, like in the original West End/Broadway musical. I got what he was trying to do with this decision but it just didn't work.
If I were in Tom Hooper's shoes, there are four things I'd change:
Lucy.
It’s a really fun action/sci-fi flick. I don’t know why people dismiss it for being scientifically inaccurate. Who went into it thinking it was realistic? LoL.
In this thread: I'm mostly finding people I feel I need to add to my "no longer like them" list for irreconcilable differences.
I'm having a hard time deciding what qualifies as "HATED" or highly disliked.
A lot of people hated Edge of Tomorrow because Tom Cruise. But I am actually quite fond of the movie.
A lot of people hate Apocolypto, and it's objectively a terrible movie from a historical as well as moral/ethical perspective, I don't disagree there. But at the end of the day it is entertaining if you can turn your brain off.
I've never seen people mention this as a problem, it's universally liked as far as I can tell. I have seen it mentioned humorously, as in "as a bonus, if you don't like Tom Cruise you can watch him die in this movie, like, a lot".
Edge of Tomorrow is the perfect video game movie. We get to see the player become gradually more skilled after playing the same levels over and over.
I had to look it up to remember the name, but Agent F.O.X. It's one of those cheapo 3D kids films (looks original instead of being a rip-off and actually looks good animation wise) that is cheesy. Sometimes it's good to watch B-rate 3D kids films so you can die of how cringe it is, despite from what I can remember the movie not being 100% cringe like 99% of all cheap 3D kids films (but still cringe).
Caddo Lake
The Lone Ranger (2013). Yeah it's at least a half hour longer than it should have been but I thought it was a fun movie
The trailer park boys movies.
Blonde
Jupiter's Ascending.. it was nice 👍
Rat Race
Hackers